Archive for September 2007

Where did IBM blow all that smoke?

September 26, 2007

I am waaaaaaay to busy to be distracted today. There is a release going out on Friday and like usual there is a lot of work to do. So when I got a Dr. Dobb’s e-mail with something that looked somewhat test oriented that pointed me to IBM I went. This paper seemed like it took testing one step farther than record and playback testing as it would try to figure which ‘test case’ you were executing and offer to finish it out for you. The more I read the more I felt like I was reading sci-fi. Then I got to this on page 4 of 4: “Although these are currently unimplemented, we will give a brief overview of some of the possible approaches” I now know where the smoke was getting blown. Wow, good luck with that! I feel like someone from the testing community should say, hey we are working on these problems… and they are real hard to solve.

Should there be a Watir users group in your town?

September 20, 2007

I think it is time for Austin to get a Watir users group.  Bret Pettichord checked the interest of this about a year ago, the response was good.  It may be even better to start one now.

In the last year I have seen some great advances of what to do with Watir to help people really take this technology and start writing practical tests very quickly.  Last week Hugh McGowan and Rafael Torres showed off a flexible data driven test system that made each row or column of a worksheet into a set of Rspec tests.  This was open source software on ruby forge.  Then shortly after that Mark Anderson used this to write a data drive test to hit google given search terms to verify the expected top url.  This code should be on the same ruby forge site now.  The demo was quick and impressive.
With this advances I saw someone ask a question on the Austin Watir mailing list how to install Watir on their system.  There was a quick answer.  The Wati-general mailing list is very busy these day with advanced and newb questions.

Now seems to be a good time to get an organized Watir group set up in Austin.  I would also like the idea of exporting our presentations (an importing as well) to user groups in other cities to get things moving that way as well.

I’m thinking a meeting would be called when we have a venue and 2 presenters and might go like this:

5:30-6:15 Early arrival, people can bring questions to see if a more experienced user can help them.  Possibly as advanced as installing Ruby/Watir/Test tools on the machine or a recent user-group presentation demo.

6:15-6:30 Regular arrival, people can announce that they are looking for Watir users and testers or are looking for work in the field.

6:30-7:00 Watir report – Someone reports experience with the Watir or related tools at work.

  •   This was the problem.
  •   We did this
  •   This worked/this didn’t

7 :10-7:50 Demo – Showing off a new tool, module or library

  • See Watir in action
  • Learn about coding techniques or a tools
  • Later you can down-load and try out something

Ideas?  Feedback? Would this be good?  What day are you free to do this?